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PM Patrick McKenzie Patrick McKenzie Spent six years at Stripe working on payments infrastructure before moving to an advisory role there, after founding several small software companies over the p...

“Their matching program for employees might be one of the most expensive single corporate decisions ever made in the history of capitalism. … The corporation will basically match employee donations on a three-to-one basis, which is unheard of in the rest of capitalism. … The Anthropic matching program is uncapped. And so there are employees that will donate $20 million to charity and have it get backed by $60 million of Anthropic money.”

Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) · Startups & Venture · November 2026

“Their matching program for employees might be one of the most expensive single corporate decisions ever made in the history of capitalism. … The corporation will basically match employee donations on a three-to-one basis, which is unheard of in the rest of capitalism. … The Anthropic matching program is uncapped. And so there are employees that will donate $20 million to charity and have it get backed by $60 million of Anthropic money.” — Patrick McKenzie, Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11)

Context

Going through the S-1's unusual governance and share structure, Patrick moves to the employee charitable-giving match. He contrasts it with a typical corporate match of one-to-one up to a few thousand dollars a year. Equity worth eight and nine figures, given away at 3:1, adds up to a very large cost.

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Complex Systems with Patrick McKenzie (patio11) Around 16:46 into the episode
Patrick McKenzie

…do seem to be quote unquote more aligned than one would suggest for most tech companies at that stage with that employee count, at that revenue growth rate, et cetera, et cetera. Not that there is another company at that revenue growth rate to point to, but we will get to that in a moment, I think.

Zvi Mowshowitz

…people who have very, very cautiously signaled that they want to influence the future in general in good ways rather than build personal wealth and maximize profits. Those are the people who will ultimately make the tiebreaking vote in this situation. And that is exactly what that was selected for.

Patrick McKenzie

I couldn't find if this was explicitly called out in the S1, and I will edit the transcript if I missed it in my first two readings. But their matching program for employees might be one of the most expensive single corporate decisions ever made in the history of capitalism. The matching program for employees was, I hear, calibrated to essentially allow employees to do something similar to what the founders were doing and give away 80% of their economic stake. And to make those numbers work, they said that the corporation will basically match employee donations on a three-to-one basis, which is unheard of in the rest of capitalism. And additionally, like typically…

Zvi Mowshowitz

Yeah, but they got what they wanted out of it. And if you want to strongly differentiate, you know, how much it's worth to you, if you're committed to the mission, if you're not committed to the mission, it's going to be expensive. And when you turn out to be the fastest growing company in history…

Patrick McKenzie

I failed that control F prior to recording. The S1 does indeed mention the donation matching program in a few places. For example, it says that the class N shares are reserved against the need to make good on these commitments. And the company took a $2 billion non-cash charge in Q3 related to it.…

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I think the acknowledgement of an ad read sounds cooler in Japanese.

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