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SE Steve Eisman Steve Eisman Investor known for betting against the subprime mortgage market before the 2008 financial crisis, a story told in Michael Lewis's book The Big Short.

“The market is pure narrative. It is pure narrative. And there is only one narrative that matters right now, and that's AI. So you tell me what happens to the AI narrative, and I'll tell you what happens to the stock market. Period.”

The Compound and Friends · October 2026

“The market is pure narrative. It is pure narrative. And there is only one narrative that matters right now, and that's AI. So you tell me what happens to the AI narrative, and I'll tell you what happens to the stock market. Period.” — Steve Eisman, The Compound and Friends

Asked what the market is telling him about earnings and valuations, Eisman says he isn't sensitive to valuation in that way. For him, the only thing that matters for stocks right now is the story investors believe about AI.

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The Compound and Friends Around 40:45 into the episode
Steve Eisman

am not valuation sensitive in that way. All right,

Speaker 4

but what's market telling me? The

Steve Eisman

market is pure narrative. It is pure narrative. And there is only one narrative that matters right now, and that's AI. So you tell me what happens to the AI narrative, and I'll tell you what happens to the stock market. Period. That's all that matters.

Speaker 3

So I think that's true. And, you know, a lot of people say the stock market is not the economy. I think right now it kind of is. Like, I think we're talking about companies that aren't even public yet having the ability to cause a recession. So, the companies that are public, I really think all of…

Steve Eisman

wow. And now, the bond

Speaker 3

market, we learned, as Michael said, we learned yesterday how important to prevailing yields, the ability to sell debt. I really think this is one of those situations where the economy did become the stock market. And it may not last forever, but like right in this moment, I think it's more true…

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