“Junior people are much worse than AI, which means that junior people would be better off having AI do the work and they don't have the expertise to assess whether it's good or bad. ... So nobody learns anything anymore. The learning was incidental to the process, even if it was the point in the long term.”

…Navier-Stokes. So you don't even know what it can do capably. So Where’s this huge mismatch, the overhang, right, between AI capability and where people's perception of AI is. And people are making all sorts of predictions based on all kinds of missing assumptions. Kind of nobody knows anything.

…the idea that AI makes experts more powerful while often automating the kind of junior work that actually creates expertise. Maybe unpack a little bit about what you see here and how you think we're going to grow the next generation of experts if we're automating the process by which they are made.

Not an easy thing to do at universities either. We had David Deming on this show a few months ago, and we talked about what I think is a really naughty problem of how do you teach artificial intelligence in a educational community that should be all about making thinking difficult so that people…

Okay, so this is what would my most controversial point. And so the academics don't say, but I don't think this is that hard a problem. I think transitioning to the state we need to be in is a harder problem. But we actually have a lot of control over people in universities and K-12 education. And…

Does the last thing you just said suggest that professors should be much more aggressive about limiting, even prohibiting any kind of AI use because there is no benefit to becoming FASA with the technology between 18 and 22. At college, your job is just to become good at learning. And when you…