“I would argue that these machines have massively decreased our tolerance for uncertainty and our tolerance for imperfection. Because AI holds out the promise that there's the exact right answer out there if you just keep scrolling and looking and querying long enough.”

…of them, especially for parents of kids with severe, I mean, it's just devastating to have a child who's addicted and really severely addicted and might die. I mean, how do you self-regulate around that? Very hard. But Codependency Anonymous, Alan On, very, very helpful for those types of things.

…whose brains were literally shaped around their reward. Circuitry was shaped around interaction with devices and the reward contingencies of scrolling or whatever it is. Is it much harder for them to get out of an addictive trench than it is for somebody who has engaged with those things less?

I don't know if you get into this in the book, but recently, because of some guests we've had on the podcast, Michael Paul and Paul Stamitz and others, that it used to be that young people, boys and girls, would go through some kind of rites of passage. And oftentimes those rites of passage were…

I mean, I think we can get back to some of that. I think we absolutely need to. And I do think it begins with at least spending some part of every day out from behind our screens. You know, go outside, leave your device behind, look at the sky, look at the trees, talk to a human, make a mistake…

Yeah, these days I play with the idea of doing things with no intention of it being put out into the world.