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DB Dylan Burns On Preston Stewart

“Ukrainians kind of view themselves as up to America's whims. One moment America will be on your side. The next moment America will not be on your side. As if Ukraine is being discussed like a pawn.”

Preston Stewart · Policy · November 2026

“Ukrainians kind of view themselves as up to America's whims. One moment America will be on your side. The next moment America will not be on your side. As if Ukraine is being discussed like a pawn.” — Dylan Burns, Preston Stewart

Context

Asked whether the Ukrainians he meets have changed how they see America, he describes what he hears: that US support is transactional and unreliable. It's his account of Ukrainian views, not his own policy position.

Transcript

Preston Stewart
Dylan Burns

…even if marginal, out in Ukraine. So I think those are some of the biggest areas of social tension in Ukraine as of right now. But the general consensus is that the war is here and victories like the long-range war effort against the Russian refineries have definitely been a recent morale booster.

Preston Stewart

…or lack thereof of Ukraine, especially over the last two years. Are you hearing much from the soldiers or the citizens changing perception how they view America? Are they still optimistic that we'll come around? Are they just not thinking about us at all? Which I wouldn't judge them for that. The

Dylan Burns

Ukrainians kind of view themselves as up to America's whims. One moment America will be on your side. The next moment America will not be on your side. As if Ukraine is being discussed like a pawn. Even now, as Trump talks about negotiating a deal with Europe or with Ukraine, it doesn't seem like he's talking about with Europe as in they're going to be included, but we're going to make a deal on Europe. We're going to make a deal on Ukraine. We're going to make a deal for them. And there's a lack of inclusion. And ever since the new administration has come in, there's been a lot of…

Preston Stewart

Probably a good place for them to get to, unfortunately. It was almost more painful in the period of time where we were kind of waiting, like, is something good going to happen? Is this going to turn around? And it's in a weird way, almost. I wonder if it's almost better to just come to acceptance…

Dylan Burns

I think my favorite moment in the film would probably be just there's this quiet moments in between walking on the front with the infantry where they kind of sit back and they smoke a cigarette and there's just little moments of tranquility. And these images are burned very deeply into my mind…

Preston Stewart

It's really important. You hit on it early on, Dylan Burns it's so important to document what's happening there and to have someone like you out there. I mean, risking your life to be able to share this story with the rest of the world, not just today, but this is the kind of thing people are going…

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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