“I've seen journalists get attacked while clearly marked as press. I've seen civilians get killed for no reason whatsoever. … Talking about dressing up as press is just like a different costume in some video game to a lot of drone pilots. Not all Russian drone pilots… but a lot.”

…I more comfortable going in on foot. And when we went in on foot, we had probably at least over a dozen experiences, interactions with drones zooming around us or directly trying to target us. And that was just one day of walking into and out of that axis. So it's probably 25, 30 kilometers.

Do you make yourself known as press? Like, do you wear a press badge when you're doing this?

It's such a weird dynamic because when you think about, I mean, press in a war zone. And to be, for everyone listening, and I know who you said, you weren't in Konostanthinivka, you were just around the sides of it. Like to be clear, kind of what he said is we weren't in the area that's borderline…

Yeah, no, I mean, I remember my first embed, I wore like reflective press press covering, and they were telling me, take that off. Are you crazy? You know, it'll bring attention to you. And the last thing you want to do is bring attention to yourself. So what I try to do is just try to be…

I mean, I'm all about more press being there, but at the same time, Dylan, like you're dodging FPBs, you know, like that is, it is crazy. It feels like magnitudes beyond. What our professional press corps has done in conflict zones recently. Like we had in Afghanistan, we had reporters in bed with…