Things Ronik Says on Podcasts

…build a pop-up. Here's the design. PDF has a design and it has to do this, this, that. And agent would take about 30 minutes to do it, right? What do you do in that 30 minutes? As a dev, like, do you pick up on another task? Like, what's the company system around it? I can tell you what they're

doing. Yeah. Twiddle on their thumbs.

Well, the thing too, I'll tell everybody, and I'll tell you guys too, I'd be curious. Whenever you change people's title, even though they're not being paid more, right? Like you were a web developer, now you're an AI developer. I would be very cautious at using AI in the title. And I always tell…

But I feel like almost everyone on LinkedIn nowadays, you see AI.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of what, you know, it goes back to an agency, like a marketing agency a long time ago when the internet came. Well, then they were interactive agency or a digital agency, right? But if you say you're a digital agency now, it's kind of like, well, no, duh, like…

…time that we are saving, which is not that much when you factor in the additional QA now that it takes or the refactoring of Figma file first. So a lot of the saving goes into that. But I think once those systems are a bit more perfected, like 50% on a custom work seems very possible, very doable.

…They're the bloodiest, but we want to be the best. So we'll take what other people have created and make it better. And I think as creative minds, most agency owners are, we have to kind of see something. And they'd be like, oh, well, I could do this. You're putting it together. It's kind of cool.

So, as you're doing this show and tell with your, I mean, I think you guys are around 300 people now. So, no excuse to all the ones listening that have 40 people or 50 people. Like, come on. Your team is going to be like, I don't have time. Like, I'm already maxed out. Even if you show me something…

It is difficult. So I think, first of all, what you said earlier, like you do have to invest into some dedicated group of one person, two person, whatever, right? Depending on your size, what you do, you do need to invest first in building those things out. And of course, we're not putting, we're…

Yeah. Well, I think too, you know, how I rolled it out with my team, I was a little, I was kind of the show and tell and probably way too excited. And my team was like, oh, right. Like there, Jason goes on his little, you know, chasing the shiny red object thing. And then, you know, as they started…

…you get some work and then it is a kind of skill how you, right? I know you work a lot with AI Can't I think eventually you learn that skill. And I could already see that a lot of people are falling behind on that, that they're not catching up or not putting enough time on practicing on that skill.

…I think he characterized it like if you play chess, I guess there's a name for the thing that you can never beat the computer on the chess or something like that. He's like, pretty soon it will be there. So how are you communicating to your team to adopt AI Can't what's working, what's not working?

Well, it's smart that you have a team for this, right? Because, or, you know, I always tell people you have to have some kind of leader. Because I think if you go to your team and say, use AI, they're not going to know, they're going to use AI in the same workflow that they've always done. Like you…

Yeah. It's so interesting. The whole example that you said with the HTML, you're fine with it. We like three months ago, we were so sold on it. Like, let's move away from WordPress. Like, you know, because it's so crappy. I mean, everyone's know it's bloated, has, you know, has got its own issues.…

So, as you're doing this show and tell with your, I mean, I think you guys are around 300 people now. So, no excuse to all the ones listening that have 40 people or 50 people. Like, come on. Your team is going to be like, I don't have time. Like, I'm already maxed out. Even if you show me something…

…recordings where we talked about my entry into E2M, I actually got acquired by E2M a couple of years ago. And that was so that I can focus on just AI Squad and family. And so for the past couple of years, I've been doing exactly that. All my time is, I've been just spending doing something with AI.

…agencies are more excited, but still their teams are a little worried because the owner, you know, they'll go to an event or they'll start messing with stuff and they'll be like, oh my gosh, look at what I can do. We can do so much more. And then the teammates look at them or like, oh, I'm screwed.

Well, it's, you know, you got to think we have so many different things to do, especially what stage of the life where they're at in their agency, right? If they're more of an operator and they're doing everything, they're doing sales and marketing and operations, they're like, all right, guys, you…

I think the approach that we have taken is more show and tell rather than, hey, can you experiment this on your own? Because we tried that last year. It didn't work. Because maybe because they don't have time, they have actual deliverable work that needs to get delivered today. Or they don't have…

Well, it's smart that you have a team for this, right? Because, or, you know, I always tell people you have to have some kind of leader. Because I think if you go to your team and say, use AI, they're not going to know, they're going to use AI in the same workflow that they've always done. Like you…