Mary Childs

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Journalist and author of The Bond King (Flatiron Books), a biography of PIMCO founder Bill Gross. Previously worked at Barron's, the Financial Times and Bloomberg News, and hosts the talk show Mary in America. Hosts NPR's Planet Money. Writes the off the run by mary childs newsletter on Substack and appears on Slate Money, Money Stuff: The Podcast and Odd Lots.

Where to Find Them

Mary Childs writes off the run by mary childs , hosts Planet Money and writes Harper’s Magazine . They have also been a guest on Slate Money (7 times) , Money Stuff: The Podcast (3 times) , Odd Lots (2 times) , The Compound and Friends (2 times) , Chat With Traders , The Long View , The Market Huddle , Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing , The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network and The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing . They also write for Mary in America on Substack.

Recently: “Release Me From This Demon” on Money Stuff: The Podcast (October 2026); “Reintegration With the Default World” on Money Stuff: The Podcast (October 2026); “Learn More Gooder” on Money Stuff: The Podcast (September 2026); “ALIVE, and LIVE” on off the run by mary childs (June 2026); “The Index Fund Problemtunity” on Slate Money (June 2026); “introducing Mary in America” on off the run by mary childs (May 2026).

What They Said

“It's like when a kid really needs a parent to make them stop doing something. They're like, please release me from this demon. That's what the Supreme Court can do for Kalshi.” — Mary Childs, Money Stuff: The Podcast

Childs and Matt Levine are discussing the legal fight over whether Kalshi can list sports contracts. Levine imagines that a ruling against Kalshi might leave it fine, its business having moved on to things like hedging data center risk. Childs answers with the line that gave the episode its title.

Money Stuff: The Podcast · 2026-10-16 Permalink → Listen →
Money Stuff: The Podcast Around 16:16 into the episode
Speaker 1

I can't wait for more clarity here. I've stayed confused on this. Yeah.

Matt Levine

…have spent so much time. No, maybe it'll be great. Maybe like they'll have grown their business so much and they'll be like mostly hedging data center risk and they'll be like, it's okay. We didn't need the sports gambling. That was just like bootstrapping us to the glorious place we're at today.

Speaker 1

It's like when a kid really needs a parent to like make them stop doing something. They're like, please release me from this demon. That's what the Supreme Court can do for Calci.

Matt Levine

I don't want to speculate about their psychology. But you're

Speaker 1

going to do it. But I

Matt Levine

feel like part of them, they'd be a little pleased to be released from the demon of sports betting. They're not here to be sports bets.

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