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EG Ed Grosvenor Ed Grosvenor On Artisan Beer

“It's not so much a matter of saving money. It's a matter of I don't want to have my tools interrupt my workflow. … The moment Claude comes back and says, I can't do that because whatever, I'm immediately looking for something else that's gonna solve my problem. Because it's so easy to find something else.”

Artisan Beer · Laravel Ecosystem · October 2026

“It's not so much a matter of saving money. It's a matter of I don't want to have my tools interrupt my workflow. … The moment Claude comes back and says, I can't do that because whatever, I'm immediately looking for something else that's gonna solve my problem. Because it's so easy to find something else.” — Ed Grosvenor, Artisan Beer

Grosvenor builds open-source, self-hosted replacements for SaaS tools. His argument is that feature gates, per-seat billing and blocked agent access are what drive people off SaaS; the subscription price matters less.

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Ed (00:01) Okay, I I think we're live. Peter (00:03) think we're live too. Th there was a c I saw a countdown. That was cool. Ed (00:07) Yeah. I assume that means that we're recording now. So how are things? Peter (00:14) So how are things? do you wanna intro the podcast first? Ed (00:19) sure. Yeah, this is this is Artisan Beer. This is kind of a thing that I've been wanting to get started for I don't know. I think I registered the domain two years ago. it's just casual conversation over a beer or coffee, depending on the time of day and you know, personal preferences. I do have a beer. Peter (00:39) Mm. Man, I'm jealous. Ed (00:41) gonna l let you know dark dirty secret. It is nine fifty one in the morning and this is an NA beer, but I I wanted to stay on brand for this, Peter, you and I talk once a week about what we're doing, the kind of things that we're working on, things that we're seeing in the industry. And then when we were talking earlier this week I said, you know what, we should just record these talks because you know, I think there's some Peter (01:04) Yeah. Ed (01:05) some…

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