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DB Dylan Burns On Preston Stewart

“There's a real difference in being watched for nine months hiding in a hole, being scared to come up above ground to smoke… constant buzzing as you know that there's someone hunting right outside your trench for any sign of movement, and you're scared to even come out at night because you can't see anything, but they could see you. That constant feeling of being watched. … It's a totally different psychological dilemma versus somebody who had a traumatic experience with a firefight in Kandahar.”

Preston Stewart · Policy · November 2026

“There's a real difference in being watched for nine months hiding in a hole, being scared to come up above ground to smoke… constant buzzing as you know that there's someone hunting right outside your trench for any sign of movement, and you're scared to even come out at night because you can't see anything, but they could see you. That constant feeling of being watched. … It's a totally different psychological dilemma versus somebody who had a traumatic experience with a firefight in Kandahar.” — Dylan Burns, Preston Stewart

Context

Comparing Ukraine with earlier wars, he says drone warfare creates a different kind of trauma, built on months of constant surveillance rather than single firefights.

Transcript

Preston Stewart
Dylan Burns

…because the mainstream press, to be quite frank, have a problem with the liability that comes with sending their journalists out to the front line as often as I think there should be footage coming from the front line. So there needs to be more independent press on the front. I really believe that.

Preston Stewart

…we had in Afghanistan, we had reporters in bed with us. Ah, you know, they had pretty hot meals and we kind of joked around with them at night, but like they weren't really in that much danger. We made sure they didn't go on certain patrols and all that. But this is an entirely different beast.

Dylan Burns

…bombardment, constant underground living, constant buzzing as you know that there's like someone hunting right outside your trench for any sign of movement and you're scared to even come out at night because you can't see anything, but they could see you. That constant feeling of being watched. And then you remove somebody after nine months in that environment and some men have done that. It's a totally different psychological dilemma versus somebody who had a traumatic experience with a firefight in Kandahar. Now, these are both things that deserve treatment and psychological review. It's just the type of skills and investment and research that's necessary to deal with this will require so much time and investment. And so it's of the utmost importance that everyone pays attention to what's happening

Preston Stewart

here. And in fairness to the good journalists that are out there at these major organizations, because there are plenty of solid ones, most of the time, in my understanding, is it's not their individual call. It's, we'll call it the Associated Press or the Washington Post. It says, absolutely not.…

Dylan Burns

Yeah, nobody should have ever let me onto the front line at the start of the war. That was insane that they did that. You know, some streamer comes over here, like, I want to meet a war journalist. And, you know, they said, okay. And it worked out five years later and making full-fledged films. I…

Preston Stewart

What about risk tolerance? How much of that are you able to determine? I mean, you mentioned a second ago that it's practically impossible for foreign journalists to get into Kostantinivka. I'm sure there's been a number of places where at some point there's a line drawn and foreign press isn't…

Speaker names come from our own diarization. The position is estimated from where the line sits in the episode.

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