Mark Cuban

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Owner of the Dallas Mavericks and known from Shark Tank, on Pivot calling a sports franchise a vanity asset rather than an investment.

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Mark Cuban writes a16z Podcast , writes Mark’s Newsletter , writes a16z , writes The Logan Bartlett Show , writes Raising Health , writes Liftoff with Keith: Interviews with Top Movers and Shakers and writes The Daily Beans . They have also been a guest on The Illusion of Consensus (8 times) , TBPN (4 times) , All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg (3 times) , Squawk Pod (3 times) , Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing (3 times) , The GaryVee Audio Experience (3 times) , How I Built This (Guy Raz) (3 times) , 3 Takeaways™ (3 times) , Decoder with Nilay Patel (3 times) , Relentless Health Value (3 times) , Masters of Scale (3 times) , The Vergecast (2 times) , Bloomberg Surveillance (2 times) , Earn Your Leisure (2 times) , The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch (2 times) , The Indicator (Planet Money) (2 times) , The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast (2 times) , Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) (2 times) , The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway , Lex Fridman Podcast , Prof G Markets , Pioneers of AI , Equity , Billboard On The Record , SOA Podcasts - Society of Actuaries , Masters in Business , Uncanny Valley | WIRED , Odd Lots , Grit , Closing Bell , Halftime Report , Ground Truths , Aspire with Emma Grede , On with Kara Swisher , NEJM AI Grand Rounds , Worklife with Molly Graham , JAMA Clinical Reviews , The Real Eisman Playbook , EntreLeadership , Off the Air: A Journalist's After-Hours Thoughts , Recode Media , TED Tech , Crypto Critics' Corner , Tony Robbins Podcast Daily , Mixed Signals from Semafor Media , The Pomp Podcast , Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel , Big Technology , Billboard , 20VC , Market Mondays , Pharmaverse Podcast and Ground Truths (Eric Topol) .

Recently: “Mark Cuban: What Everyone Is Getting Wrong About AI (#319)” on 3 Takeaways™ (September 2026); “What Mark Cuban REALLY thinks of Medicare for All” on The Indicator (Planet Money) (August 2026); “Medicare for All is not Medicare for All” on The Indicator (Planet Money) (August 2026); “Mark Cuban on High Drug Prices, Taxing Billionaires, and 2028” on Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) (August 2026); “Mark Cuban on the AI Bubble: Who Actually Gets Wiped Out?” on All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg (July 2026); “Ideology Is Not a Strategy” on Off the Air: A Journalist's After-Hours Thoughts (July 2026).

What They Said

“…it is the ultimate vanity asset.” — Mark Cuban, Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway)

Explaining the real economics of owning a sports franchise, Cuban is blunt about the appeal. He credits buying the Dallas Mavericks with making him a public figure — Shark Tank included — and calls a team the ultimate vanity asset rather than an investment.

Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) · 2026-08-21 Permalink → Listen →
Pivot (Kara Swisher & Scott Galloway) Around 40:41 into the episode
Mark Cuban

neither here nor there.

Kara Swisher

Depends on the price. So explain what's happening here for me. I find this really interesting, especially, you know, you have Iger in there, which is interesting. I think he's the pretty one, and Josh is the money. Explain what's happening here. A couple

Mark Cuban

things. One, it's a vanity asset. Like if I didn't buy the Dallas Mavericks, probably wouldn't know who I was, right? I mean, you would because of tech, but most people would not. I would not be a celebrity. I wouldn't have gotten on Shark Tank, right? David Stern, rest in peace, was the commissioner of the NBA and used to always say, I made you by finding you all those times. And he was right. You know, it is the ultimate vanity asset. It wasn't your

Speaker 2

behavior.

Mark Cuban

No, you know, there's 30 NBA teams, 32 in other leagues. And so we know Jerry Jones's name, not because he was in the oil business. You know, people now know who Josh Kushner is, not just because of his brother. And so that, one, it's a vanity asset. Two, because it's a vanity asset and now the leagues are allowing private equity to get involved. That's increasing the prices because private equity chases where the narratives are. You know, and this is crypto for rich people in some respects, right? It's where the fun narrative is. But from a true business perspective, there's two sides to this. One, if you can leverage it to build, you know, so if you look around staples that were crypto.com center, right, there's all kinds of cool stuff. There's, um, if you go by, there's the battery outside Atlanta, right? There's by the Chase Center, there's all kinds of stuff, right? And so if you're able to build all that stuff, you can make real money. So it's not the team per se, but it's the leverage it gives you by the surrounding area. Yeah. And you can do it once you own the arena. You can do concerts, which is where the Mavs and the Dallas stars that we shared the arena with made most of our money, right? By doing concerts in a very

Kara Swisher

you don't even have to have a good basketball team.

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