Michael Batnick

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CFA charterholder, director of research and investment committee member at Ritholtz Wealth Management, who writes about markets, investor behavior and investing history. Author of Big Mistakes: The Best Investors and Their Worst Investments (2018). Writes The Irrelevant Investor and co-hosts Animal Spirits and The Compound and Friends, and also hosts Talking Wealth. Appears as a guest on Plain English with Derek Thompson, Odd Lots and Jill on Money.

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Michael Batnick hosts Animal Spirits Podcast , hosts The Compound and Friends , hosts and writes The Irrelevant Investor , hosts Talking Wealth , hosts and writes Ask The Compound , hosts Flirting with Models and hosts Alt Goes Mainstream . They have also been a guest on Plain English with Derek Thompson (7 times) , RiskReversal Pod (5 times) , Jill on Money with Jill Schlesinger (3 times) , The Meb Faber Show - Better Investing (2 times) , Money Moves with Jill Schlesinger (2 times) , The Boldin Your Money Podcast , Summation with Auren Hoffman , Capital Allocators – Inside the Institutional Investment Industry , Odd Lots , This Week in Startups , The Market Huddle , Excess Returns , Motley Fool Hidden Gems Investing , Value Hive Podcast , The Investor's Podcast (We Study Billionaires) - The Investor’s Podcast Network , WSJ's Take On the Week , Boyar Research , Big Technology and Money Rehab with Nicole Lapin .

Recently: “Talk Your Book: Investing in Single Stock Futures” on Animal Spirits Podcast (October 2026); “An Economy So Good No One Can Live In It with Jill Schlesinger⁠” on The Compound and Friends (October 2026); “It's a Bloodbath (EP. 487)” on Animal Spirits Podcast (October 2026); “Doubt but No Fear, SpaceX Reports, Netflix Cleans House, AI Bond Vigilantes, Bending Spoons” on The Compound and Friends (October 2026); “Talk Your Book: The Case for Value and Momentum” on Animal Spirits Podcast (October 2026); “How OpenAI Could Cause a US Recession With Steve Eisman” on The Compound and Friends (October 2026).

What They Said

“In July 2018, I tweeted that the top five stocks in the index are equal to the bottom, I think it was 240, 280, something like that. … I recently updated that stat. The top five are now equal to the bottom 434 stocks. It is unbelievable the concentration that we're seeing in this market.” — Michael Batnick, Animal Spirits Podcast

Batnick is responding to his CME guest's point that the top 10 names now make up more than half of the S&P 500. He updates a market-concentration stat he first posted in 2018.

Animal Spirits Podcast · 2026-10-24 Permalink → Listen →
Animal Spirits Podcast Around 08:04 into the episode
Michael Batnick

…dicing and getting finer exposure to various asset classes, there's something else. So at CME, you guys are part of the revolution and you have introduced a new-ish category, single stock futures. What is the thinking behind this product? Who is it for? How do we access it? What's going on here?

Tim McCourt

…in the U.S. equity ecosystem, certainly that's continued to rise. And then the ability of those individual and institutional traders wanting all the capital efficiencies, the around-the-clock access, it really was the perfect opportunity to introduce single stock futures to the marketplace.

Michael Batnick

Tim, to what you've said, let me give you a stat that's going to blow your face right off your body. So Tim, speaking to the concentration in July of 2018, and at this point, the concentration had been building for years. It was not like a new concept. I think Jim Kramer created Fang in 2017. Apple crossed a billion dollars, a trillion dollars, excuse me, in 2018. So in July 2018, I tweeted that the top five stocks in the index are equal to the bottom, I think it was 240, 280, something like that. The bottom, the bottom 240 stocks in the SP 500. I recently updated that stat. The top five are now equal to the bottom 434 stocks. It is unbelievable the concentration that we're seeing in this market. And who knows how far it goes? I don't know where it stops, but it seems to be up and to the right.

Tim McCourt

Yeah, certainly. I think when you look at the prominence that the mega caps have had in the indices, and it's not just an SP Phenom, you see the same thing in the Nasdaq 100, you're seeing in the Russell 1000. It's just the, it's the byproduct of a market cap weighted index. And as these companies…

Ben Carlson

My idea of futures has always been very broad-based, right? The S ⁇ P and the NASDAQ essentially. That seems like what I would associate with CME Group. Just operationally, how different is it for individual names? Is it kind of like, well, no, it's the same process or maybe just a little more…

Tim McCourt

Yeah. So one of the good things about single stock futures, Ben, as you sort of note, it's another sort of widget on the trading machine at CME Group. It trades on our electronic platform called Globex. It's available through all of our normal distribution networks. So in a lot of ways, it's…

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